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Increasing evidence is being presented regarding climate change and global warming. Yet there are a small group of researchers who present data and argue that fears of climate change are overblown. Where do you believe research stands on this issue?
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I think the research is very definitive. The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change has just issued a report showing a definite warming over the last few decades, while the Global Humanitarian Forum in the same report, attributes 300,000 deaths a year to Climate Change. The evidence on Climate Change is getting stronger every single year, to my mind, and will soon be incontrovertible.
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I agree that the evidence is clear. Some will not believe no matter what the evidence - look at the holocaust issue. The question is what to do. The earth has always experienced climate changes, now the challenge is to counter the "normal" activity and then to correct what humankind has done. The greening movement seems to be a positive response. I also know that Waste Management is doing some good work on landfills, just need a critical mass. Something like in the movie Finding Nemo, if we all swim in the same direction, we will be successful.
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Evidence? What evidence? Do you know we are still in an ice age? Ice ages come and ice ages go....every 100,000 years or so there has been a predictable warming period during which polar glaciers melt and sea levels rise. Then another ice age arrives and the process goes on.
There are multiple theories as to what is behind these shifts. The popular one is that the earth's slant has a major impact on global warming. According to this theory the earth's axis goes up and down a few degrees in 40,000-year cycle. Hence the ice ages.
I think we should do what we are doing! Drill baby drill!!
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How is the melting of the ice caps explained if we are in an ice age? I agree that there is a natural cycle of climate change, but humanity also has an impact and skewed the natural cycle. This is an empirical question and there is more evidence accumulating as people are studying this.
"Drill-baby-drill" does not take account that oil is a finite resource that is not easily or rapidly replaced and that demand will outstrip supply. We have now exploited most of the easily reached supplies. Drilling in many of the available sites is extremely expensive and dangerous.
Humankind is creative enough to figure out ways to use renewable, safe sources of energy. We are beginning to learn how to convert trash to energy (that is what Waste Management) is doing). We can take a landfill and create methane gas. We can recycle and create products with less impact. We only have one earth, some are satisfied that as long as it still is working during their lifetimes that is enough, others have a longer term view and want to preserve for future generations.
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I am starting to think that we can't save environment for future generations. Too many thing are going wrong so fast that the "tipping point" may have come and gone without us even noticing.
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Climate change is upon us, whether human in origin or not. In all likelihood, it is caused, or at the very least greatly aggravated by human activity. From the drastic deforestation of the Amazon and Congo basins, to the accelerated increase in the burning of fossil fuels, to the greenhouse gases caused by intensive animal farming and other industrial activities, we are fiddling on the roof while Rome burns.
There is unfortunately very little political will to do anything meaningful to reduce or stop the trend. This is largely because economic growth, especially for developing economies like China, India and Brazil, is inextricably linked to activities that are destructive to the environment.
With the impending displacement of hundreds of millions of people as sea levels rise worldwide, at some point governments will be forced to take notice.
Let us hope and pray that by then the problem will still be reversible, and it will not be too late.
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I'll throw my hat into the ring here and say that I'm convinced more than ever that human activity is responsible for dramatic changes in the world's climate. This is actually not opposed to the fact that there may be natural cycles of warming and cooling on the planet, but human activity is definitely having an impact.  For example, the atmospheric concentration of oxygen 300 million years ago was about 35 percent, an amount that greatly exceeds today's 21 percent figure. Due to human activities like burning fossil fuels and deforestation, the concentration of atmospheric carbon dioxide has increased by about 35% since the industrialization began (Wikipedia reference). Furthermore, CO2 emissions by human activity are currently more than 130 times greater than the volcano emissions, or about 27 billion tonnes per year. Since CO2 is a greenhouse gas, it stands to reason that it is behind the gradually warming that we are experiencing. I advise everyone to read the new report entitled, " Global Climate Change Impacts in the United States" shown here.
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My greatest fear concerning climate change is that it may already have become irreversible. According to the United kingdom's Prince Charles, we have about 100 months before the climate change becomes catastrophic. I remember the movie "the Day After", which explored in Hollywood's inimitable manner, climate change spiraling out of control. While I appreciate the movie industry's penchant for imagineering, there is something about that movie that unsettled me deeply.
Unfortunately I have little faith in the ability and political will of the leaders of the international community to adopt a useful common position and take concerted and determined action. I am hoping that they will surprise us all this time, for their own sakes as well as ours.
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Researcher Andrew Jacobson, a professor of earth and planetary sciences at Northwestern University is exploring what may be global warming's biggest ticking time bombs: the melting of permafrost. "Permafrost, or frozen ground, covers approximately 20 to 25 percent of the land-surface area in the northern hemisphere, and is estimated to contain up to 1,600 gigatons of carbon, primarily in the form of organic matter. (One gigaton is equivalent to 1 billion tons.)
By comparison, the atmosphere now contains around 850 gigatons of the element as carbon dioxide." Read the full report here.It is getting so that climate change deniers are now somewhat akin to Holocaust deniers or Lunar Landing deniers. There's just nothing you can say to these people...
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To me, it's not an issue of "if" there is climate change (that's the politically correct term now) of course there is, how much of it is natural and how much is caused by man, I don't agree that we know definitively what, where, and how much. Are we just talking about reducing emissions or are we talking about interfering with nature as in the proposed "sun-shield satellite"? The need for better information so we can make more accurate climate change predictions so we know where to focus is very important, IMHO. More emphasis is now being placed on local and regional impacts of climate change. Global Warming Survival Center
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Braasch wrote:To me, it's not an issue of "if" there is climate change (that's the politically correct term now) of course there is, how much of it is natural and how much is caused by man, I don't agree that we know definitively what, where, and how much. Are we just talking about reducing emissions or are we talking about interfering with nature as in the proposed "sun-shield satellite"? The need for better information so we can make more accurate climate change predictions so we know where to focus is very important, IMHO. More emphasis is now being placed on local and regional impacts of climate change. Global Warming Survival Center I could not agree with you more. It is no longer a matter of "if". Reducing emissions might have have worked if we started early enough. However, note we have not even started yet. I believe the "stitch" will not be in time and we will have to resort to drastic, draconian measures to save our planet. Corporate greed and individual ignorance will lead to us spending vastly more than if we had responded sooner.
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One of the the examples used to show how serious global warming is the melting of the glaciers.The problem with that is that the glaciers have been melting for several thousand years. Isn't that how the Great Lakes were formed and didn't we once have an ICE AGE. Seems to me, from the scientific data that we are still in a warming process. __________________ Free database of eco friendly companies.
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tross001 wrote:One of the the examples used to show how serious global warming is the melting of the glaciers.The problem with that is that the glaciers have been melting for several thousand years. Isn't that how the Great Lakes were formed and didn't we once have an ICE AGE. Seems to me, from the scientific data that we are still in a warming process.
No problems with the fact tat the earth has historically gone through cooling and warming of its own without human intervention. The problem though, is the human intervention. We put immense amounts of CO2 into the air, we clear mass swathes of forest, we pump CFCs into the environment to destroy the ozone layer; we also produce energy in the most dangerous (Japan and Chernobyl) and dirtiest (coal) ways possible. It is now probably inevitable that we pass the tipping point - in fact some islands in the Pacific that have to evacuate has already passed their tipping points. Some experts see 1/3 of Bangladesh being evacuated within 50 years as will many coastal cities. It is hard to be an optimist about global warming.
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The climate is changing. The earth is warming up, and there is now overwhelming scientific consensus that it is happening, and human-induced. With global warming on the increase and species and their habitats on the decrease, chances for ecosystems to adapt naturally are diminishing. Many are agreed that climate change may be one of the greatest threats facing the planet. Recent years show increasing temperatures in various regions, and/or increasing extremities in weather patterns. Since years the human insensitive action may be cause of climate change and global warming. We should provide awareness about this among our coming and existing generation. You know in colleges and universities many life science and environment science students are providing amble knowledge by conducting climate change essays. This will be helped students to know more about the consequences and affects of climate changes and global warming.
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